upside of xhtml2 deathknell

All the fine minds of the xhtml2 working group are now free to concentrate on fixing html5

ex xhtml2 working group memberz sayz:

all your (x)html5 belong to us

song for jeffrey & geoffrey

summer of spritz

google's ian """""hixie""""" hickson demonstrates his management skills: spritzing the vocal minority

To be honest I think that the accessibility expertise of the WAI group is far more important here than what little HTML engineering expertise I and others may have. In this particular instance, for example, I really have no idea how to truly make canvas accessible (short of the solution that is already in HTML5, which you have pointed out can best be described as a primitive example of "bolt on" accessibility).
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sub blorsenite cowper's consumer fuckner pulls out the butt plug in a feeble attempt to out-spritz the master hauteur

You really sell yourself short Ian, IMHO your knowledge and understanding of accessibility to be on par or greater than many of the so called experts (including myself), and IMHO your HTML engineering expertise far exceeds any of those people involved in the WAI groups, that I know of (including myself). So IMHO and in conversations with the people you ccd on the email, it is agreed we really need you to lead the development of an improved canvas API, but of course we will help where we can.
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Mr last week sez: IMLWHO your wastin' your time fuckner, hixie has decided, but of infinitely more importance your wastin' hixies time, so crawl back into your commode along the all the other self styled accessibility experts and leave the job of HTML5 to US!
freak scene

public dump

It's common knowledge that Google's Ian 'hixie' hickson is partial to taking a dump in public (except when he deems it politic to give a private performance to his vendor boys), recent events have revealed a disturbing escalation in this pathology:

dump > step

So let me re-ask my question: if a browser vendor has an installed base of greater than "a percent or so", and they flat-out state they will not implement, e.g. all the new input types in HTML5, will you take them out of the spec?

Hixie sez:Yes.
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meanwhile opera hair brain little jimmy has a disturbing realization

web forms 2 & CANVAS etc. - fuera aqui! fuera aqui!

* jgraham wonders what happens if Microsoft announce that they will never support CANVAS or that they will never replace their non-tree-like DOM
jgraham: hober: afaict Hixie's arguments about requiring vendor consensus means that we would have to either a) get everyone else to agree to the IE model or b) leave a big chunk of the parsing mechanism unspecified
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Mr last week sez: Hickson hands microsoft a loaded gun. We wait for the shot to be heard around the web standards world.

Stab Your Back

offered without comment

----- "Ian Hickson" wrote:
> Maybe once we're in last call I'll fork the spec
> into an HTML5 and an HTML6 and only do maintenance
> for HTML5, adding new features only to HTML6.

Actually, the W3C's licensing rules prohibit this kind of thing.

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/IPR-FAQ-20000620#really

The restriction makes some sense. Otherwise, someone could unilaterally bump HTML's version number, which would be an act of social violence.[1] I am in favor of licensing the body of the HTML5 spec the spec under the most liberal terms, but I wouldn't want the license to allow titling derivative works in a way that would allow them to be confused with the IETF/W3C series of HTML specifications.

- Rob

[1] http://intertwingly.net/blog/2006/02/23/Version-Numbers/

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W3C > WHAT WG

W3C > WHAT WG

Popularity Contest

Hixie: holy crap, we've surged in subscribers
Hixie: 1068!
Hixie: public-html hasn't changed, still 341
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Leader of the Gang

bully boy

bully boy sayre kicks a frail maciej while he's going down:

maciej sez:

Easy for you to say - Mozilla is much less likely to get sued than vendors with deeper pockets.

sayrer sez:

Never utter this kind of garbage in the group again. No one should tolerate this stuff from an MPEG-LA member.

maciej, visibly shaken by the ferocity of sayres outburst sez:

Rob, I don't think this kind of language is appropriate for the public- html mailing list.

with no sympathy for maciej's perilous physical and mental condition sayrer continues the onslaught:

which word are you objecting to? "garbage" or "stuff"?

Mrs last week sends a plea to sam ruby: for the sake of the kiddies, please step up stop this horrid tongue lashing of our beloved madge. she's like a sister to me.
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